Posts by RULES & REGULATIONS

20

Where is the school for the 144,000?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the watchtower has many schools to teach their members on how to become more effective in various assignments in jehovah's organization.

they are trained to strengthen and help the congregations and branches around the world.

here is a list of some of the schools the society run:.

RULES & REGULATIONS

Bobcat
You get the sense from all this that the WT really sees the topic of the 144,000 (and partaking at the Memorial) as directly related to their (earthly) rulership over the R&F. And they don't wish to share that with anyone.

Reading some of your posts, you seem to have way more Bible knowledge that I'll ever have. Having said that, are you implying that there are literal, breathing human members on this earth that are part of the 144,000 and that the Governing Body dismiss them so that the ''remnant'' are silenced and put off to the side?

I believe that the Governing Body let members partake and use the numbers to show that the ''remnant'' are real, but deep down they don't really believe they are real or else they would be put to good use.

20

Where is the school for the 144,000?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the watchtower has many schools to teach their members on how to become more effective in various assignments in jehovah's organization.

they are trained to strengthen and help the congregations and branches around the world.

here is a list of some of the schools the society run:.

RULES & REGULATIONS

The Watchtower has many schools to teach their members on how to become more effective in various assignments in Jehovah's Organization. They are trained to strengthen and help the congregations and branches around the world. Here is a list of some of the schools the Society run:

Gilead School

Kingdom Ministry School

Pioneer Service School

School for Branch Committee Members and Their Wives

School for Circuit Overseers and Their Wives

School for Congregation Elders

School for Kingdom Evangelizers

I don't see a school for the nearly 21,182 ( 2020 yearbook figures) who are called and chosen” to rule with Christ in the Kingdom are referred to as a “little flock.” (Revelation 17:14; Luke 12:32)

If there really were a ''little flock'', wouldn't they have Watchtower Society schools, meetings and teaching programs?

Why aren't they giving talks all over the world? Why didn't I ever see one at my kingdom hall? Why aren't they taking the lead in the ministry work? If some of them are female, why can't they be ministerial servants, elders, and be in on judicial meetings?

For some reason, I think there is no such thing as a ''little flock''.

9

Who Is To Blame For the World's Insanity? Not The Leaders But Their Followers

by The Bethelite in

jw
friends

there are 1000's of wacked out ideas on the planet.. a crazy little man with a mustache in a beer hall in munich germany in 1923 had some crazy ideas for sure....he starting with a dozen people who thought his insanity was a good idea.

in just 22 years his insanity effected the entire world with millions dead.

he duped 95 million germans alone...who thought his insanity was a good idea.. another crazy little man with a beard, started in the basement of a church in pennsylvania in the1870's.

RULES & REGULATIONS

The Bethelite

I have three books ahead of yours right now. ''Controlled Demolition of the American Empire'' ''Who Rules the World'' and ''A Peoples History of the United States''

Can you tell us how you pitched the idea, the amount of time it took you to write it, what are your sales and why it took 400 pages to explain your story?

9

Who Is To Blame For the World's Insanity? Not The Leaders But Their Followers

by The Bethelite in

jw
friends

there are 1000's of wacked out ideas on the planet.. a crazy little man with a mustache in a beer hall in munich germany in 1923 had some crazy ideas for sure....he starting with a dozen people who thought his insanity was a good idea.

in just 22 years his insanity effected the entire world with millions dead.

he duped 95 million germans alone...who thought his insanity was a good idea.. another crazy little man with a beard, started in the basement of a church in pennsylvania in the1870's.

RULES & REGULATIONS

Another crazy little man with a beard, started in the basement of a church in Pennsylvania in the1870's. He had some crazy ideas too. He thought the world would end in 1879 and then revised this dated to 1914. A hand full of people thought this crazy guy was on to something. Fast forward 150 years and 8 1/2 million people later we find millions of people still waiting/hoping for the world it end any day. The life style of these people who believe in this form of insanity is well, beyond description.

The Bethelite

I have not read your book. Somehow, someone in your family was truly convinced. You even made the decision to become a member of the Bethel family. Everyone at Bethel was truly convinced. As wacky as the Mormon religion is, they still have millions of members. Why did you convince yourself that the wacky Jehovah's Witnesses were not wacky, but other religions were?

31

If only someone had kicked my a$$.. (This is post is not for theists)

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

i think back on the 30+ years of bs as well as my fading almost a decade and even now being low key in person to hopefully save my nieces from the wt.

i'm a wreck in some ways.

i'm other days i'm stable however when it comes to theism i depart quickly and with anger!

RULES & REGULATIONS

duped by theism for more them 30+ years feels.

duped : a person who is easily deceived or fooled; gullible

I only have myself to blame for the 40 years I was a Witness. Finally decided that I was miserable being a Jehovah's Witnesses. I didn't leave sooner because of family. Hated every minute of the meetings and left only when I told myself to be true to myself. Losing family and friends was a better choice than suffering being a Jehovah's Witness. Surprisingly, they leave me alone and treat me as if I was still a member.

17

Why does God need to be worshipped?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the bible exhorts us to “worship the one who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.”—deuteronomy 4:24; revelation 14:7.. insight on the scriptures, volume 2 pp 1200-1202. worshipone of the hebrew words conveying the idea of worship (ʽa·vadhʹ) basically means “serve.” (ge 14:4; 15:13; 29:15) serving or worshiping jehovah required obedience to all of his commands, doing his will as a person exclusively devoted to him.

(ex 19:5; de 30:15-20; jos 24:14, 15) therefore, for an individual to engage in any ritual or act of devotion toward any other gods signified his abandoning true worship.—de 11:13-17; jg 3:6, 7.another hebrew term that can denote worship is hish·ta·chawahʹ, which primarily means “bow down” (ge 18:2), or do obeisance.

(see obeisance.

RULES & REGULATIONS

pistolpete

That is something I thought all along!

How do you make the Jews God's chosen people, have God fight all your winning battles, have a powerful and all knowing God be so jealous of a measly, mortal Moses taking credit for finding water, that God does not permit him to enter the promised land, strike down and kill Ananias and Sapphira, who held back a puny amount of money? Write a man made construct YHWH in a collection of books that is still taken literal 2000 years later!

17

Why does God need to be worshipped?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the bible exhorts us to “worship the one who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.”—deuteronomy 4:24; revelation 14:7.. insight on the scriptures, volume 2 pp 1200-1202. worshipone of the hebrew words conveying the idea of worship (ʽa·vadhʹ) basically means “serve.” (ge 14:4; 15:13; 29:15) serving or worshiping jehovah required obedience to all of his commands, doing his will as a person exclusively devoted to him.

(ex 19:5; de 30:15-20; jos 24:14, 15) therefore, for an individual to engage in any ritual or act of devotion toward any other gods signified his abandoning true worship.—de 11:13-17; jg 3:6, 7.another hebrew term that can denote worship is hish·ta·chawahʹ, which primarily means “bow down” (ge 18:2), or do obeisance.

(see obeisance.

RULES & REGULATIONS

The Bible exhorts us to “worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.”—Deuteronomy 4:24; Revelation 14:7.

Insight on the Scriptures, Volume 2 pp 1200-1202
WORSHIP
One of the Hebrew words conveying the idea of worship (ʽa·vadhʹ) basically means “serve.” (Ge 14:4; 15:13; 29:15) Serving or worshiping Jehovah required obedience to all of his commands, doing his will as a person exclusively devoted to him. (Ex 19:5; De 30:15-20; Jos 24:14, 15) Therefore, for an individual to engage in any ritual or act of devotion toward any other gods signified his abandoning true worship.—De 11:13-17; Jg 3:6, 7.

Another Hebrew term that can denote worship is hish·ta·chawahʹ, which primarily means “bow down” (Ge 18:2), or do obeisance. (See OBEISANCE.) Whereas such bowing could at times simply be an act of respect or of courteous regard toward another person (Ge 19:1, 2; 33:1-6; 37:9, 10), it could also be an expression of worship, indicating one’s reverence and gratitude to God and submission to his will. When used with reference to the true God or false deities, the word hish·ta·chawahʹ is at times associated with sacrifice and prayer. (Ge 22:5-7; 24:26, 27; Isa 44:17) This would indicate that it was common to bow down when praying or offering sacrifice.—See PRAYER.

The Hebrew root sa·ghadhʹ (Isa 44:15, 17, 19; 46:6) basically signifies “prostrate oneself.” The Aramaic equivalent is usually associated with worship (Da 3:5-7, 10-15, 18, 28), but it is used at Daniel 2:46 to refer to King Nebuchadnezzar’s paying homage to Daniel, prostrating himself before the prophet.

As a father, I never required my children to worship me. I just wanted honor and respect. They never needed to thank me for every meal, clothing that I purchased for them, taking/picking them up from school and doctor visits, paying for their first automobile or their college tuition. They were never made to get on their knees and beg for forgiveness. Punishment was never used to make them see their wrongs, control them or instill fear.

Why does God need to be worshipped?

34

Anyone notice how when some of us older ones were in the cult.......

by mickbobcat in

when i was a kid in the late sixties the type of books we would study was very intense compared to the bull shit pablum that they put out today?

i mean the finished mystery and others now its these stupid books that don't dive deep into the beliefs.

.

RULES & REGULATIONS

can anyone remember the big pink paradise book ?

34

Anyone notice how when some of us older ones were in the cult.......

by mickbobcat in

when i was a kid in the late sixties the type of books we would study was very intense compared to the bull shit pablum that they put out today?

i mean the finished mystery and others now its these stupid books that don't dive deep into the beliefs.

.

RULES & REGULATIONS

mickbobcat
When I was a kid in the late sixties the type of books we would study was very intense compared to the bull shit pablum that they put out today?

Actually, the opposite is true! The pablum are the old books and congregation book studies that were written by Russell, Rutherford and Fred Frantz. Today, the Society has no choice but to dumb down their reading material.

Here is one congregation book study material that would never be studied today:

Impressive book study ( my first congregation book study ) in the 1970's about cherubs, flying swords, rotted bones and flesh, the fall of the United Nations, the fall of Christendom and the attack on the true religion, ''Jehovah's Witnesses.''

The book left no doubt that Armageddon was imminent and that only Jehovah's Witnesses would survive. It was scary to read that after surviving Armageddon, all surviving Jehovah's witnesses would have years of work, burying dead flesh and bones.

Today, you would see this book as just fantasy, unrealistic, far-fetched, make believe and completely foolish, with hyperbole claims.

16

Cain and Abel...Who recorded this tragic event?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

3 the day came when cain brought a gift of the fruit of the ground to the lord.

4 but abel brought a gift of the first-born of his flocks and of the fat parts.

the lord showed favor to abel and his gift.

RULES & REGULATIONS

3 The day came when Cain brought a gift of the fruit of the ground to the Lord. 4 But Abel brought a gift of the first-born of his flocks and of the fat parts. The Lord showed favor to Abel and his gift. 5 But He had no respect for Cain and his gift. So Cain became very angry and his face became sad. 6 Then the Lord said to Cain, “Why are you angry? And why are you looking down? 7 Will not your face be happy if you do well? If you do not do well, sin is waiting to destroy you. Its desire is to rule over you, but you must rule over it.”

8 Cain told this to his brother Abel. And when they were in the field, Cain stood up against his brother Abel and killed him.

9 Then the Lord said to Cain, “Where is Abel your brother?” And he said, “I do not know. Am I my brother’s keeper?” 10 The Lord said, “What have you done? The voice of your brother’s blood is crying to Me from the ground. 11 Now you are cursed because of the ground, which has opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. 12 When you work the ground, it will no longer give its strength to you. You will always travel from place to place on the earth.”

Sometimes you stand back and you wonder how you ever believed any of these Bible stories. Genesis has direct quotes that Jehovah asks Cain about the whereabouts of Abel.

Who wrote down these quotes Jehovah and Cain spoke as they happened? When and where were they written down? Since ink and scrolls were not invented yet, how was this conversation recorded?